Updated, Fremantles Light Rail, More Destructive to Fremantle Homes and Businesses, Than PFL?

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I understand the South St reserve link (Intramaps)is not quite working as I would like so here is a screen shot of what I was intending to show from intramaps. Now this is an indication of a reserve set aside some time ago and is not complete for the rail system to be built, so it would need to be expanded. Of course to see the full impact of how the reserve would impact homes an actual detailed plan would be needed. Not to mention the cycle paths they would want, car lanes and buses.

The Red line running down South St shows the properties impacted. Also allowing for the expansion west of the road reserve to Fremantle to allow the light rail to be added.

South St Rd Reserve

The link above takes you to a map that takes a few seconds to load. It may need to be zoomed in to South St , between, Carrington St and Bruce Lee Reserve

This map will show you South St reserve,  coloured in red which starts just west of Bruce Lee Oval and heads east out of Fremantle.

This is the space set aside to expand South St, which would be needed to incorporate a light rail system. Unless councils plan is to just ban cars on South St? In the Herald last month we see the article about  Rachel Pemberton,  EYES ON A LIGHT RAIL FUTURE

This would appear to make Fremantle Councils light rail more destructive to Fremantle than the PFL.  All the verge trees and many in peoples front yards would need to be cut down, or cleared to make way for Rachel’s Pemberton’s Light Rail Future.

  • How many families would lose homes on South St?
  • How many businesses would need to knocked down to make way for the new rail line?
  • How much of their blocks will be reclaimed for the new verges area?
  • All the big pine trees on South St before Carrington St would need to go.
  • About 80 trees between Carrington St and Stock St would need to go.
  • The impact east of Stock Rd could also be huge if over head power is needed, with many old large trees could over hang the power system.
  • How will this effect the value of all homes along South St especially those close to road with added rail noise and vibration. Wheel squeal and flanging noise are often causes of annoyance to residents as the high pitch screeching is mainly found at the high frequency end of the human audible noise spectrum?
  • Now its been made so public will real estate agents now have to warn prospective buyers of the developments the council is driving for.
  • Now the Councillor has come out and spoken about it so publicly, what impact could this have on Trans Perth not prioritizing new bus routes or possible rapid bus transit lanes, which TP development speaks of?
  • The months of turmoil on people and businesses while South St is dug up and the new infrastructure is put in place?
  • Worse, no road reserve is noted for the final leg to Fremantle, so who’s street could it drive through and what is the impact on loss of homes and businesses to for fill their ideology? Leaving years of uncertainly for local families
  • This is just the start of the questions of the impact that such a project could have.

The devastation on an old established suburb will be huge by driving a light rail system through these old heritage areas.

Some other links to the issue

FREMANTLE LIGHTRAIL NOT A PIPE DREAM

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/light-rail-on-track-for-perths-south-with-route-from-murdoch-to-fremantle-mooted/news-story/f62357a00d5ab598645dc701c6c1e84b

 

 

 

 

Fremantles Light Rail, More Destructive to Fremantle Homes and Businesses, Than PFL?

 

South St Rd Reserve

The link above takes you to a map that takes a few seconds to load. It may need to be zoomed in to South St , between, Carrington St and Bruce Lee Reserve

This map will show you South St reserve,  coloured in red which starts just west of Bruce Lee Oval and heads east out of Fremantle.

This is the space set aside to expand South St, which would be needed to incorporate a light rail system. Unless councils plan is to just ban cars on South St? In the Herald last month we see the article about  Rachel Pemberton,  EYES ON A LIGHT RAIL FUTURE

This would appear to make Fremantle Councils light rail more destructive to Fremantle than the PFL.  All the verge trees and many in peoples front yards would need to be cut down, or cleared to make way for Rachel’s Pemberton’s Light Rail Future.

  • How many families would lose homes on South St?
  • How many businesses would need to knocked down to make way for the new rail line?
  • How much of their blocks will be reclaimed for the new verges area?
  • All the big pine trees on South St before Carrington St would need to go.
  • About 80 trees between Carrington St and Stock St would need to go.
  • The impact east of Stock Rd could also be huge if over head power is needed, with many old large trees could over hang the power system.
  • How will this effect the value of all homes along South St especially those close to road with added rail noise and vibration. Wheel squeal and flanging noise are often causes of annoyance to residents as the high pitch screeching is mainly found at the high frequency end of the human audible noise spectrum?
  • Now its been made so public will real estate agents now have to warn prospective buyers of the developments the council is driving for.
  • Now the Councillor has come out and spoken about it so publicly, what impact could this have on Trans Perth not prioritizing new bus routes or possible rapid bus transit lanes, which TP development speaks of?
  • The months of turmoil on people and businesses while South St is dug up and the new infrastructure is put in place?
  • Worse, no road reserve is noted for the final leg to Fremantle, so who’s street could it drive through and what is the impact on loss of homes and businesses to for fill their ideology? Leaving years of uncertainly for local families
  • This is just the start of the questions of the impact that such a project could have.

The devastation on an old established suburb will be huge by driving a light rail system through these old heritage areas.

 

Mayors exchange words

MELVILLE Mayor Russell Aubrey has criticised the City of Cockburn for backing a $290 million road project to unlock traffic in Perth’s south-east

Source: Mayors exchange words

Good to see both Mayors of Melville and Cockburn driving development that will make their own citys, less congested, more efficient, more productive, safer, better for emplyment etc.

The ALP seem to have no issues building new roads, with great promises to Armadale and Cockburn.

I hope they have a big budget as Metronet and the Outer Harbour looks like costing them 10 billions on just to projects. I wonder if that leaves any money for the Freo area or are we due to miss out again on any state funds.

Cockburn is driving for new roads and connections to keep their area, driving forward with development. Of course they want the Outer Harbour to develop and possibly more importantly the Lat 32 giving the area a huge boost in revenue, developments and jobs.

Seems that both Roe 8 and the outer harbour will have environmental impacts.

Back to Freo with all the chat on the various issues and views, if Roe 8 and Roe 9 don’t go ahead what will be done  for Freo in the 10-15 years to fix the growing car traffic and of course the every expanding Port.

Considering at the last meeting I saw with the Premier and Peter Newman they seem to agree that the while Fremantle port already has best practice in Australia for Rail use, it would not be possible to expand containers to Rail much past 30% which is the current target. The also both agree Fremantle Port will continue to operate and with cap and transitions (once the outer Harbour opens) will see the port grow in containers movements over the next 15 years at least.

So the question stands what will happen to improve Fremantle’s every worsening  traffic situation? I still haven’t heard a solutions just objections.

In my reading i found this doc below which had some interesting reading in.

Southmetroconnect

On pg 11 (of the above link) shows some of the environmental studies/info which shoulders right to the Lat 32 area.?

Chalk and Cheese over Perth Freight Link

What a well-run meeting by the North Fremantle Community great job by Gerry MacGill, a nice civil community Q&A. Well done to the crowd that attended too.

But Whoa what a difference a couple of weeks makes. I went to the Victoria Hall meeting with Peter Newman as the headline name for the night, all on the Perth Freight Link (PFL). Last night I went to the Nth Fremantle community meeting on the PFL impact especially focused on Nth Freo. Here Peter Newman was again a headline draw card with the Premier Colin Barnett giving the governments opinion, as the local member. But the sting was really not in his presentation in Nth Freo as it was in Victoria Hall. Side note at vic hall when the council wants a crowd they put one buffet, no need at Nth Freo.

Great to see the Premier make time to speak to his electorate.

What surprised me was the whole CUSP report was all front and centre at Victoria Hall, the Mayor sprouting its contents and not surprising as it cost the rate payers $20,000. At Nth Freo it barely rated a mention, Peter Newman spent as much time talking about his new book as he did the CUSP report that our council dropped $20 k on.

In fact I think the City of Kwinana’s new Indian Ocean Gateway document got more attention than the CUSP report, that Fremantle council paid $20,000 for. Good to see at least one council driving for investment, jobs, infrastructure and developments in the city, well done Kniwana.

So I wonder what we the rate payer paid for in the CUSP report as I expected  Prof Newman would be using it to give the Premier both barrels, instead they spent the most of the night agreeing with each other. Peter Newman put forward of course the inter-nodal issue which I believe various governments have been talking about for years with Lat 32.

Peter Newman could not even definitely say the Roe 8 was not needed for the outer harbour system as it’s in the plans for the Lat 32.

His point was the Roe 8 went to the wrong port, which sounds like an endorsement for the Roe 8 to be built. Yet he no solution for Fremantle’s coming years of traffic issues as the current ports needs to operate for at least the next 20-30 years till it gets to the cap and transition that Peter and Colin agreed on. Quite a surprise from the Victoria Hall presentation? It was agreed by both speakers that Fremantle’s Port could double in container volume over the next 10 years to about 1.4 million containers, yet Peter Newman had no solution for how to handle the increase of containers Fremantle will have until the Outer Harbour is finally operational.

So one question that needs answering is that if PFL is not built, what is the container solution for Fremantle as even Peter Newman believes the maximum achievable container on rail will be just over 30%. Leaving 70% of container movements to go by truck.

Good to see someone bring up the emission control regulations from Euro 5&6 for diesel engines and Peter Newman admitted that truck emissions dropped drastically over the years with new technology and believed that trucks would go to gas over the coming years removing the diesel emission issue.  California is also moving into trucks running on Hydrogen also cutting out truck emissions as an issue. We could also bring in the 80/20 diesel blends which would have an immediate reduction on emissions.

Strangely the Mayor was very quiet at the meeting not even a question?

It was also interesting to see the 2 speakers agree that WA was the best performer for freight on rail and they both agreed, even if the Outer Harbour is built without massive investment in the inter-nodal systems the rail volume would still not increase much past 30% which is the current target of the Inner Harbour.

It was good to see the Premier so clearly state the Roe 9 part is still under evaluation and needs lots of work before the final route is chosen. While good that the decision will get public debate, sucks for those who live on the proposed routes as they will be left hanging in limbo till a decision is made.

I think the argument that the Roe 8 will bring more trucks to Fremantle is done, it’s only more containers that will bring more trucks to fremantle, which will still come whether PFL is built or not.  Something needs to be built to handle the next decades of increasing trucks to the Port and the ever increasing smaller vehicles on the road around Fremantle.

Our council has blindly followed the Barnett governments in fill plan while not getting any infrastructure to handle the increased density, population and the cars they bring. Last night the Premier said about 90% of houses have 1 car and over 50% have two. I think those figures are from a census some time back as I drive around my suburb the number of cars in front of one house is more than that. Just think our Mayor Brad has 2 cars himself.

Time for council to stand up for our amenity and tell the government no more infill or density increases till we start to see the necessary infrastructure to deal with it, PT or better roads I don’t mind which I just want to see some guarantees of delivery. Of course that also means when the government tries to put some in place it helps for the council not to say no.

So I go back to my “Thinking Allowed OPEN MINDS” where I called for public debate on this issue. If the 2nd leg of PFL Roe 9 goes ahead, now is the time for people to say what we need from this road/tunnel, to make our suburbs more livable,  as truck free and safe as we can make it.

 

 

River tunnel gets minister’s ear | Fremantle Herald Interactive

Source: River tunnel gets minister’s ear | Fremantle Herald Interactive Perth Freight Link issue

Just a few clarifications, while I did speak to Main Roads about the PFL their meeting was not 90 mins, they suggested another person who gave us a 90 mins meeting which lead to the meeting with Dean Nalder. Whom I must say was very generous with his time and open to our suggestions. I imagine he has dozens of restricting issues let alone how much they it would cost.

Also our idea was a little more sophisticated than dumping the rocks over the end of the port, but the intent or suggestion was to use the earth extracted from the tunnel to further extend the port for space, giving the port almost double its dock  current space, freeing up other space for residential or mixed space use, partly to offset the additional cost of tunneling option. A huge cost and time saving issue i’m sure?

The main idea if we had a tunnel and motorway that serviced the area it would work for the port , then at a later date if it had another use, the motorway access would service its next function as well as freeing up our major roads from through traffic, these are the  roads used by local residences and businesses.

It has the potential to seriously lighten traffic on

  • Stirling Hwy
  • Old Fremantle bridge and Queen Victoria St
  • Hampton Rd
  • High St
  • South St
  • Canning Hwy
  • Curtin Ave
  • etc.

Again the point is if the PFL is going to be built, trying to get the best possible outcome for Fremantle, its business and residents, instead of just a motorway in and out of the port.

Perhaps not perfect but the 1st step in a bigger conversation for the greater benefit of Fremantle.

 

 

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