Fremantle Council Called Out For Wasting Rate Payers Money on Personnel Ideology

Freo’s green initiatives machine fails in plastic bag crusade

“Fremantle’s reputation for green causes precedes it and the council has been an assiduous supporter — often with ratepayer cash — of an array of environmental initiatives.”

Finally the main stream media in WA have removed their Rose coloured glasses in regards to Fremantle council.

This sort of reporting is a breath of fresh air for the dozen or so community groups that fremantle councils just dismisses out right when ever the try to raise issues with council or its grafitti loving Mayor Brad Pettitt, who publicly berated the President of the Fremantle Society, when he dared question a project the mayor is a major supporter of.

As we see below if u disagree with the mayor,  your  not sensible, words as typed by the mayor.

It is true that I was disappointed that Fremantle Society Henty Farrar (who is normally very sensible, informed and balanced in his views) based his rather critical public comments on,,,,,,,,,

The facts from Peirs Verstegen story in the West is clearly wrong as in fact MLC Peter Katsinbanis does officially represent people in Fremantle as its part of his electorate and it was not just libs who voted against it but 2 other parties as well, like normal quickly brushed over facts.

I love the greens outrage that another ban has failed, it seems that’s their whole policy for WA is a huge list of ban this ban that. Interesting that Lynn MacLaren talks of Fremantles councils legal entitlements to react to community desires, she has been very quiet on the communities desires NOT to have a booze barn at J-Shed for dozens of good reasons, guess its green backing green no matter what the cost.

What of course neither article mentioned were that Gareth Parkers article brings up a complaint,  that’s been made for years about the Fremantle council is the waste of rate payers money on their own personal ideologies.

Of course the greens would not complain about a carbon neutral fund ($30, 000+ of rate payers $$$$) for schools, being awarded by the city of Fremantle  to a member of the greens company, just about the time of her running for the bi-election for the federal seat of Canning, a mere coincidence to be sure.

These issues are just the tip of the iceberg for poor use or inappropriate of rate payers funds, should the West decide to dig a little deeper there is an Aladdin cave of stories to be published on the poor use of rate payers funds in Fremantle.

The Kings Sq business plan would be a great place to start, before we have a mayor building a monument to himself.

Its interesting the fear that local businesses have, about speaking openly about this issue,  as a shop owner put it to me, the FFF,( Freo Feral Factor) they did actually say the FFFF I’ll leave to your imagination what the 4th F was for. But there is a real concern by people if you voice your disapproval on certain issues, that some anti-social issues will be coming your way. Pretty poor in the 21st century in a Democracy like Australia that people have that concern, its more akin to stasi based organizations with stand over tactics or those who use public intimidation to drive their personal agendas.

This is an issue I have had mentioned to me before from other government bodies that have no wish to do community meeting issues, due to their staff being abused, spat on, intimated etc. Just like Telstra fixing vandalized equipment, their attitude why bother, new replaced today, trashed tomorrow.

Lucky Businesses had someone like Peter Katsambalis to turn too.

 

 

What’s happened to Fremantle Councils Missed Opportunity with Plastic Bags

plastic bag smile1

The council and Mayor Brad Pettitt instead of pushing for a law to fine/punish business for not using the biodegradable bags, could have taken this idea and turn it more to a marketing opportunity. Given Fremantle another brand, it would even opened them up to run a competition for logos, branding, marketing etc.

Taking something like the BID, and using a Fremantle branded Biodegradable bag to sell to businesses in town, with a simple QR barcode on the bag that could link back to a website promoting all the business that have Opted to join Fremantle’s councils save the ocean or cut plastic bag usage or whatever program. It could be used as a tool to promote Fremantle businesses that are ecco friendly or ethical.

Giving consumers and informed choice of where they could choose to shop and businesses a choice of whether they take part or not. More carrot less whip.

Then there are the added benefits to business that bulk purchasing would lower the cost to the business, as collective buying would enable you to bargain a better price for bags, giving business a lower cost than them going out and sourcing them for themselves. Possible seasonal marketing programs, shops using the brand to promote their own business etc. The city using it to promote events etc.

Instead of education and encouragement the council has chosen the whip over the carrot to drive their ideology with Fremantle businesses and wasted time and resources with a pissing contest with the state government. Which smells more of more of cheap nasty party politics than good environmental outcomes. Fremantle’s councils true weakness.

Personally I’m all for changing the plastic bags to a better product, but I’m against the COF starting its own little state by making up its own laws, especially when the law they put in place will have little to no practical outcome. Fremantle banning bags will no practical measurable outcome for the environment, its just another cheap political stunt, some banner waving to distract from real issues the cities has. Its also another example of poorly spend rate payers money for something that will have little or no benefit in the end at all.

If what the Fremantle council says is true why do Fremantle business use plastic bags why do they have them at all?

If customers didn’t want plastic bags they would not use them.

So if what the council says is true that business and customers don’t want them then the bags would not be in shops and customers would chose not to take them. If the community feeling was so strong this issue would have sorted its self out by now

We don’t need another level of government making laws.

Banning plastic bags in Fremantle would achieve nothing, Fremantle’s retail is dying as it is, how many people in Fremantle shop outside Freo where the ban would stop. So just bringing back their plastic bags from other suburbs.

It’s ridiculous to think the plastic bag is legal on the east side of East St and illegal on the west side of it.

The efforts should be placed making the bags ban for the whole state or country.

While the council is preaching why do they use single use plastic bags in their own street bins with no garbage separation? Fremantle city council can’t even supply recycling bins in the streets it all goes straight to land fill

recycle bins

Something Fremantle Lacks

Why does the council not have separated garbage for commercial operations in town instead everything goes into one bin for land fill I guess.

Perhaps they should get their own house in order first before dictating to the world how it should be?

America already has a screwed up system with county’s making their own laws and enforcing them, lets no go down that path and leave law making to the State Government. Its starting to look more and more political the actions of Fremantle council and less and less like a local government to take care of services and amenities to the resident and rate payers of Fremantle.

Over the last couple of days there has been a bit chat about the state government not pushing through the COF plastic bag ban.

Peter Katsambanis MLC has said  the businesses he has spoken to are not in favour, hes probably better off to not to name them so they don’t have to suffer any backlash from some of the extremists.

Bid to block plastic ban irks councils I’m always amazed to hear councillors say how they speak for the majority especially when so few people actually vote in local elections. If the MLC is so out of touch with community wants/concerns etc, again I ask why so many people use plastic bags and so many businesses have them, if community will was as strong as they make out, this issue would be self regulating with customers refusing plastic bags or not returning to shops that use them, businesses not wanting to lose customers would naturally change their operation to keep customers happy, but that’s not what happening, so who’s out of touch with what the real majority want?

Bid to block plastic ban irks councils

“Mr Katsambanis last month introduced a motion to disallow Fremantle’s plastic bag ban. The law has been tweaked since Fremantle’s last attempt was disallowed by the parliamentary committee charged with reviewing local laws, which includes Mr Katsambanis.

Mr Katsambanis said Fremantle retailers had overwhelmingly told him they feared being disadvantaged if the ban went ahead. He said allowing councils to introduce plastic bag bans “ad hoc” would lead to uncertainty and disadvantage local small businesses.

“Local governments have an important role to play in their community but every law or by-law that they pass is subject to review by the State,” he said. “Many of these retailers have expressed fear that if they went public with their concerns there may be a backlash from council or the proponents of the plastic bag ban.”

Fremantle Council Whats the Real Deal on Plastic Bag Ban?

Fremantle’s Plastic Bag Saga

So I guess we are waiting for parliament to sit so we can find out what the outcome will be.

 

Fremantle Councils Missed Opportunity with Plastic Bags

plastic bag smile1

If Fremantle business don’t want plastic bags why do they have them?

If customers didn’t want plastic bags they would not use them.

So if what the council says is true that business and customers don’t want them then the bags would not be in shops and customers would chose not to take them. If the community feeling was so strong this issue would have sorted its self out by now

We don’t need another level of government making laws. It was not even a unanimous vote by council. even the councillors don’t all agree on it.

Banning plastic bags in Fremantle would achieve nothing, Fremantle’s retail is dying as it is, how many people in Fremantle shop outside Freo where the ban would stop. So just bringing back their plastic bags from other suburbs.

It’s ridiculous to think the plastic bag is legal on the east side of East St and illegal on the west side of it.

The efforts should be placed making the bags ban for the whole state or country.

While the council is preaching why do they use single use plastic bags in their own street bins with no garbage separation?

Why does the council not have separated garbage for commercial operations in town instead everything goes into one bin for land fill I guess.

Perhaps they should get their own house in order first before dictating to the world how it should be?

America already has a screwed up system with county’s making their own laws and enforcing them, lets no go down that path and leave law making to the State Government. Its starting to look more and more political the actions of Fremantle council and less and less like a local government to take care of services and amenities to the resident and rate payers of Fremantle.

Over the last couple of days there has been a bit chat about the state government not pushing through the COF plastic bag ban.

Peter Katsambanis MLC has said  the businesses he has spoken to are not in favour, hes probably better off to not to name them so they don’t have to suffer any backlash from some of the extremists. 

Bid to block plastic ban irks councils I’m always amazed to hear councillors say how they speak for the majority especially when so few people actually vote in local elections. If the MLC is so out of touch with community wants/concerns etc, again I ask why so many people use plastic bags and so many businesses have them, if community will was as strong as they make out, this issue would be self regulating with customers refusing plastic bags or not returning to shops that use them, businesses not wanting to lose customers would naturally change their operation to keep customers happy, but that’s not what happening, so who’s out of touch with what the real majority want?

Personally I’m all for changing the plastic bags to a better product, but I’m against the COF starting its own little state by making up its own laws, especially when the law they put in place will have little to no practical outcome. Fremantle banning bags will no practical measurable outcome for the environment, its just another cheap political stunt, some banner waving to distract from real issues the cities has.

Getting to the point of the post, the Missed Opportunity.

The council and mayor Brad Pettitt instead of pushing for a law to fine/punish business for not using the biodegradable bags, could have taken this idea and turn it more to a marketing opportunity. Give Fremantle another Brand, It would even open them up to run a competition for logos, branding, marketing etc.

Taking something like the BID, and using a Fremantle branded Biodegradable bag to sell to businesses in town, with a simple QR barcode on the bag that could link back to a website promoting all the business that have Opted to join Fremantle’s councils save the ocean or cut plastic bag usage or whatever program. It could be used as a tool to promote Fremantle businesses that are ecco friendly or ethical.

Giving consumers and informed choice of where they could chose to shop and businesses a choice of whether they take part or not. More carrot less whip.

Then there are the added benefits to business that bulk purchasing would lower the cost to the business, as collective buying would enable you to bargain a better price for bags, giving business a lower cost than them going out and sourcing them for themselves. Possible seasonal marketing programs, shops using the brand to promote their own business etc. The city using it to promote events etc.

Instead of education and encouragement the council has chosen the whip over the carrot to drive their ideology with Fremantle businesses and wasted time and resources with a pissing contest with the state government. Which smells more of more of cheap nasty party politics than good environmental outcomes. Fremantle’s councils true weakness.

Fremantle Council Whats the Real Deal on Plastic Bag Ban?

Fremantle’s Plastic Bag Saga

 

Fremantle’s Plastic Bag Saga

round about sign

Are plastic bags bad, yes I don’t think many people think they are good think, handy yes, but good for us I doubt it?

Fremantle plastic bag ban should be overturned, says WA Liberal MP Peter Katsambanis

Anyway last year Fremantle had a shot at it, (banning plastic bags) it was overturned by state government, why, well probably because it’s up to the state government to make laws for WA, not Fremantle Council. That may come as a shock to some of them but that’s reality.

I can hear the calls from some now, it’s what the Fremantle community wants, really, and if that was so it would already be in place as a good business practice. As if that’s what business wanted they would just buy the already easily obtainable biodegradable or degradable bags, about twice the price but if that’s what your customer wants, it would be a poor business decision not to use them. The fact that businesses do not have on mass in Freo just shows it’s not a priority for its customers base. If I go to peaches and they ask me box or bag, I choose the box also because it’s good for my compost.

It’s ridiculous that you can walk across the road, from Fremantle to East Freo walk into a deli buy something that will come in a plastic bag and walk home to Fremantle with your now illegal purchase. Fremantle is not big enough to have any impact on this issue to be worthwhile. If individual’s want this to happen then petition your local state or better federal members and take the issue to that level of government where it belongs, it’s not a local government issue.

Don’t know anything about Peter Katsambanis but his reported comments all seemed like common sense. I can hear the liberal bashing coming already.

Now I’m sure some will argue “it’s a great test case” seriously S.A. has been doing it for years if you need any facts just look at their data.  That’s not an invitation for council to sponsor a plastic bag junket to S.A., I’m sure the facts are online or maybe a couple of quick emails would get all the info needed on the situation. Same as their can recycle system, been around for years no need for test cases, they have all the info one would need.

Well just to wait and see what the government decides to do now, allow Freo to make its own laws, maybe take the issue state wide or just a quick no, time will tell?

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