What’s happened to Fremantle Councils Missed Opportunity with Plastic Bags

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The council and Mayor Brad Pettitt instead of pushing for a law to fine/punish business for not using the biodegradable bags, could have taken this idea and turn it more to a marketing opportunity. Given Fremantle another brand, it would even opened them up to run a competition for logos, branding, marketing etc.

Taking something like the BID, and using a Fremantle branded Biodegradable bag to sell to businesses in town, with a simple QR barcode on the bag that could link back to a website promoting all the business that have Opted to join Fremantle’s councils save the ocean or cut plastic bag usage or whatever program. It could be used as a tool to promote Fremantle businesses that are ecco friendly or ethical.

Giving consumers and informed choice of where they could choose to shop and businesses a choice of whether they take part or not. More carrot less whip.

Then there are the added benefits to business that bulk purchasing would lower the cost to the business, as collective buying would enable you to bargain a better price for bags, giving business a lower cost than them going out and sourcing them for themselves. Possible seasonal marketing programs, shops using the brand to promote their own business etc. The city using it to promote events etc.

Instead of education and encouragement the council has chosen the whip over the carrot to drive their ideology with Fremantle businesses and wasted time and resources with a pissing contest with the state government. Which smells more of more of cheap nasty party politics than good environmental outcomes. Fremantle’s councils true weakness.

Personally I’m all for changing the plastic bags to a better product, but I’m against the COF starting its own little state by making up its own laws, especially when the law they put in place will have little to no practical outcome. Fremantle banning bags will no practical measurable outcome for the environment, its just another cheap political stunt, some banner waving to distract from real issues the cities has. Its also another example of poorly spend rate payers money for something that will have little or no benefit in the end at all.

If what the Fremantle council says is true why do Fremantle business use plastic bags why do they have them at all?

If customers didn’t want plastic bags they would not use them.

So if what the council says is true that business and customers don’t want them then the bags would not be in shops and customers would chose not to take them. If the community feeling was so strong this issue would have sorted its self out by now

We don’t need another level of government making laws.

Banning plastic bags in Fremantle would achieve nothing, Fremantle’s retail is dying as it is, how many people in Fremantle shop outside Freo where the ban would stop. So just bringing back their plastic bags from other suburbs.

It’s ridiculous to think the plastic bag is legal on the east side of East St and illegal on the west side of it.

The efforts should be placed making the bags ban for the whole state or country.

While the council is preaching why do they use single use plastic bags in their own street bins with no garbage separation? Fremantle city council can’t even supply recycling bins in the streets it all goes straight to land fill

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Something Fremantle Lacks

Why does the council not have separated garbage for commercial operations in town instead everything goes into one bin for land fill I guess.

Perhaps they should get their own house in order first before dictating to the world how it should be?

America already has a screwed up system with county’s making their own laws and enforcing them, lets no go down that path and leave law making to the State Government. Its starting to look more and more political the actions of Fremantle council and less and less like a local government to take care of services and amenities to the resident and rate payers of Fremantle.

Over the last couple of days there has been a bit chat about the state government not pushing through the COF plastic bag ban.

Peter Katsambanis MLC has said  the businesses he has spoken to are not in favour, hes probably better off to not to name them so they don’t have to suffer any backlash from some of the extremists.

Bid to block plastic ban irks councils I’m always amazed to hear councillors say how they speak for the majority especially when so few people actually vote in local elections. If the MLC is so out of touch with community wants/concerns etc, again I ask why so many people use plastic bags and so many businesses have them, if community will was as strong as they make out, this issue would be self regulating with customers refusing plastic bags or not returning to shops that use them, businesses not wanting to lose customers would naturally change their operation to keep customers happy, but that’s not what happening, so who’s out of touch with what the real majority want?

Bid to block plastic ban irks councils

“Mr Katsambanis last month introduced a motion to disallow Fremantle’s plastic bag ban. The law has been tweaked since Fremantle’s last attempt was disallowed by the parliamentary committee charged with reviewing local laws, which includes Mr Katsambanis.

Mr Katsambanis said Fremantle retailers had overwhelmingly told him they feared being disadvantaged if the ban went ahead. He said allowing councils to introduce plastic bag bans “ad hoc” would lead to uncertainty and disadvantage local small businesses.

“Local governments have an important role to play in their community but every law or by-law that they pass is subject to review by the State,” he said. “Many of these retailers have expressed fear that if they went public with their concerns there may be a backlash from council or the proponents of the plastic bag ban.”

Fremantle Council Whats the Real Deal on Plastic Bag Ban?

Fremantle’s Plastic Bag Saga

So I guess we are waiting for parliament to sit so we can find out what the outcome will be.


Councils’ Costly World Tour For Rubbish Junkets Continues

Perth councils’ costly world tour for a rubbish solution.

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Here we go again, we see reported in the West another overseas junket trip for councils to look at how to manage waste?

What a joke, with the internet why is it necessary to travel over the world to see how to handle rubbish. 

Just recently we see council in Fremantle approve the Mayors trip to Europe to see how our city can be made more liveable, another waste of rate payer’s money, then he was just recently off in Adelaide, now it’s to Poland to look at rubbish.

Last year it was Japan to see how the Japanese run an incinerator to burn waste.

Just recently Brad was quoted in the Herald as saying it’s a job for state government to handle. “Fremantle mayor Brad Pettitt supports the SMRC conducting the review but wants the WA government to take over waste management.”

So why does he need to go?

What’s the next trip going to be for? 

Shouldn’t the issue be how to create less waste not just burn it, wouldn’t that be more sustainable than flying around the world burning jet fuel leaving a massive carbon foot print. It would certainly be more sustainable for our rates

Fremantle Rubbish and its Waste

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Last year our mayor flew to Japan with entourage to look at incinerators to burn rubbish.

After the rubbish junket there was also a meeting at the council building to hear all the proposals on about our fab new save the environment rubbish incinerator. That was the last I’ve heard of it.

Till now I have not heard anything from council on our new system or timeline. Put into that Brad told us we were getting a 3 bin system as well, some trial I have not heard any more on this either,

Each week you put out two bins:

  • The organics bin (lime green bin) is the main service and is collected weekly.
  • Rubbish bins (red or dark green lid) are collected fortnightly on the opposite week to recycling.
  • Recycling bins (yellow lid) are collected fortnightly on the opposite week to rubbish.

Well that’s how it works in other suburbs

So as a city we invested in time, flights, hotels, general expenses to look at a system we have no real plans to implement, I hope I’m wrong, otherwise just another waste of rate payer funds. I’m sure the sushi was good but any info you needed to get on this system was surely online.

I don’t know if Tokyo is a good place to view such a system as its input of rubbish would not be comparable to a country like Australia as the amount and type of rubbish we generate is different in both type and volume.

Currently I have bugger all in my green lid when it is collected weekly unless it’s a lot of garden rubbish I can’t put in my compost. So council sends a truck to my house each week to collect bugger all, if you are recycling correctly I don’t see how you can have that much rubbish for the green bin.

The Facebook link to see how our supposed green council runs its rubbish system. Interesting reading see the impact our rubbish has on others.

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Strange also that a council that wants to ban plastic bags, to save the environment has another issue with its SMRC compost. Which I believe still has a problem being full of shards of plastic and glass through the compost, due to separation issues. So while we are banning plastic bags on one hand on the other it looks like COF are paying someone to spread little bits of plastic all over our environment? The spin just goes on and on. Further due to the fact we pay SMRC to take rubbish excess or waste is another thing we the rate payers fund. I’m sure compost full of glass and plastic does not get a good return, so that loss of revenue is an increase in cost to us the rate payers.

It’s reported that Brad wants the state government to take over waste management, so why was it necessary to go Japan for something he wants the State Government to run. As the council were not investing, building, or running this new incinerator I wonder why a trips to Japan was necessary at all, as all the city will really do is tell the truck drivers to go to different address. I wonder how many trip our councillors take on our behalf and what we spend on such trips over the years? What does the rate payer actually get out of it. Considering their concern for the environment and the impact we have on it, I wonder if they factor in the carbon impact with the flights they use?

I read an interesting site a while back which got me thinking what happen to all talk at council about our new garbage system. No burn, it had an interesting heading, Incineration is not sustainable.  A quote from the site,

“In Brescia, Italy, they spent about $400,000,000 building an incinerator and have created just 80 full-time jobs. While Nova Scotia, a province of Canada, after rejecting an incinerator, has created over 3000 jobs in the handling of the discarded resources and in the industries using these secondary materials.

For every four tons of trash burned you get at least one ton of ash: 90% is called bottom ash (that is the ash collected under the furnace) and 10% is the very toxic fly ash.”

So strange our Mayor a sustainability educator would choose burning rubbish over recycling it or more importantly working to lower the amount we waste in the first place? I guess another trip to Japan will be needed, to see how the Japanese produce far less waste per person than we do? Then there is the issue of nano toxicology, these wonderful incinerators produce nano particles, smaller than a micron, which can cross lung membrane and enter our blood stream, that doesn’t sound very sustainable.

Why push for a system that’s bad for jobs, has a negative impact on our environment(dioxins), the only ones I see benefiting is the company that builds and operates the incinerator and its investors, so good for big business and large corporations, plus the ones who fly around looking at them.

This is a better direction than burning it, what i would sustainable. Only thing this takes real effort not spin and media bites.


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